john mccain. if john mccain were in the witness chair would he get the same barrage from the republicans. so there are a couple of of old fighters. they will do well and i think that hagel will do very well. >> you like the pick? >> oh, yeah, i do indeed. i do. of course, leon, the supreme to me. i've known him for 40 years. but no, he will do well. and if there is any place you need to start messing around that doesn't have a thing to do with the forstructure, don't let anybody tell you, if we do stuff, we are expecting. admiral mullen was correct. saying the greatest thing isn't terrorism. it is the debt. can you go into the try care system. can you go into the contractors and defense flag officer. making 2300 bucks an hour. go look at contractors. go into the dod school system where it is costing $51,000 a year to educate student who are just a bus ride away from a public school. this is nuts. >> you just heard from alan simpson. chuck hagel will be confirmed and he will be helpful in cutting d